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Post by shingon1 on Mar 31, 2009 18:02:41 GMT -6
Hijo del Santo come back to Chicago Sunday April 26 The lucha estrella will be Hijo del Santo and Mascara Sagrada and Pirata Morgan , who comes for the first time to Chicago. Doors open at 5.30 pm. Ring side 25 dollars kids under 14 years 10 dollars
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Post by shingon1 on Apr 5, 2009 21:35:50 GMT -6
I have to correct Hijo del Santo y Mascara Sagrada VS Hijo de Solitario and Pirata Morgan
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Post by warrior on Apr 6, 2009 18:00:43 GMT -6
el Rey ballroom vs congress. watch and learn guys check what spectacular wrote and you'll See a big difference. how you have to do business I AM GOING TO EL REY ;D
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Post by charlieespinosa on Apr 7, 2009 12:31:30 GMT -6
Didn't Rocky Roman post about this show first? Hhhmmmm........
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Post by warrior on Apr 8, 2009 14:14:41 GMT -6
hey guys check superluchas.net the comments on the past show in lucha DE titanes it's hot
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Post by charlieespinosa on Apr 8, 2009 14:45:26 GMT -6
tried reading it. Had to stop. I'm not that good at reading what appears to be spanish slang or incomplete spanish.
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Post by Sox on Apr 8, 2009 23:51:30 GMT -6
I love how one of the banner ads on the Congress website says "Banned In Mexico"!!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2009 18:47:02 GMT -6
hey Frank Arenas where the hell do you come off insulting me on other boards?!?!? After all the "cheerleading" as Charlie Espinosa would write I did for your group you go and badmouth be behind my back?!?!? Why? Because I am going to another lucha show that isn't the one you are advertising here? Just how petty are you? If I don't go to the Congress shows any more that's my bag and as far as I can remember I have never posted anything here or in any other site against the Congress shows I didn't believe to be fair and accurate. But because I no longer go your shows you decide to attack me in a site I have up until two days ago have never visited? Look man you got your head on wrong. Whatever personal grudges you have against my friend "Charlie" or this Warrior guy hey that's between the three of you. Leave me out of them. If they don't like you that's their bag and I have never gotten in the middle because there is no point in it. I have nothing to gain either way. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and if fans like Charlie and Warrior feel they are getting more value for their dollar from other promoters then they have every right to go to these other promoters. I have heard that you guys have been having trouble filling seats at your shows and I can see why. You attack anyone and everyone when things don't go your way. You even attack me who has never raised a word against you on the internet. Mr Arenas if you really want to be a successful promoter I recommend you change your tactics of "fan bashing" and instead concentrate on putting on the kinds of lucha libre cards that will bring people back to your shows. Wether or not Charlie Warrior or even myself attend these shows who cares as long as you are putting on good shows and having good attendance. And please stop attacking fans who haven't even said or done anything against ADC. If I attend another promoter's show on the same day as your show that's my right and priviledge as a paying fan.[And yeah I have paid for all the shows I have attended at Garibaldi and this upcoming show at El Rey] If this other promotion gives a good show I will post it. If they have a bad show I will post it. Not because I like them more than ADC or hate them more than ADC. I will post with fairness and accuracy not because I have an axe to grind but because I want the lucha promoters in Chicago to do better than what they have been doing in the past year or two,I want the promoters to bring the best damned lucha shows to Chicago. Fans have the right to support the promoters who give them their money's worth. I just hope you stop and think about that instead of going off on vendettas against the fans because they say things which you construe as attacks. Their is criticisms,which as long as accurate is always fair, and there are attacks. You sir have resorted to attacking fans who have criticized you and in turn they have attacked you. Well that's none of my business,I never partook in any of it and have even asked Charlie to refrain from bashing you and your shows. He seemed to be listening to me until fairly recently but again he attacked you guys. I sent him an e-mail to ask why he started again and he send me a website link to the superluchas.net site where I read that not only did you attack him and someone named "Mario" but attacked me as well,probably burning me worse than those two. Why you attacked me and at that site is beyond me. I have never attacked you guys and if I have criticized ADC I have always been fair and accurate. If you consider this an attack well then mister you are in the wrong business. The most successful wrestling promotions,no matter whether American or Mexican, have become succesful because they understand their fanbase and listen to their criticisms,praises and comments. If you wish instead to attack the fanbase that have supported your shows in the past I don't see you being successful. Think about that before attacking me again on any wrestling site.
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Post by charlieespinosa on Apr 10, 2009 11:33:16 GMT -6
Welcome to the dark side my friend!!! You can pick up your red lightsaber at the door.
To hell with ADC because their shows stink and they are too blind to see it. I always told you that you were wasting time helping these losers and now look at the the way this moron thanked you, by going on a spanish language board and talking trash about you. I'll give him credit for not doing it here,because he's smart enough to know the people on this board won't swallow his bullplop anymore.ADC has been going down hill for a long time. It was time to get off that runaway train to crapsville my friend.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2009 14:14:34 GMT -6
How about we just end this stupid thing right here and completely ignore the existence of this promotion? I have no taste for getting into some stupid internet feud with these people. Whatever happens with their promotion I could care less.
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Post by shingon1 on Apr 10, 2009 23:39:02 GMT -6
hey Raul Cruz I don't atattack you because with a;; ,y respect for me you do'nt exist but you friend mario mentions you name he says you told him about my person so I have to defend my self, let me tell you you can go anywhere you want to go it's you right but I remind you here at the congress you never pay a ticketbto see the shows, about charlie I never met him he is right to express his opinion if sometihing don't like him because he pay for the ticket eI remind you even you never pay for the ticket I always give you my respect especially when you want interviw the luchadores. about warrior who I don't know he attack myself first and I even don't know this person and Like I told you and the other web site I I'm catolic but I don't like put my other cheek You talk about always you supported ADC thankyou but I remind you this when you Dad needsof my support I gave it to him without waiting anything to change beacuse I'm like that I'm like those credit cards that no longer exist I don't have it limits for finish let mi tell you tell you friend mario yhat no involve you so your name doesn't come out and I repeat you can go where you want to go but excuse me for this words I don't like the spongers a;so excuse me for my poor Englis
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Post by charlieespinosa on Apr 11, 2009 11:59:37 GMT -6
you're excused. And not that Raul needs me to defend him here but keep in mind the reason some people ever went to your shows was because he TIRELESSLY and ANNOYINGLY kept on hyping your damned shows. And yes YOU DID ATTACK Raul when you called him a "tarado" on the other board which thanks to my limited spanish I believe means morons and you in fact called him,me and whoever Mario is "gay" which just means you're obviously a homophobe. So don't come in here saying you didn't attack Raul,or any one else, because your own words prove you wrong.And yeah Raul never made it a secret to me that he got in for free. He said that's why he always continuously plugged your shows and helped you with whatever he could with the chairs or whatever other thing needed to be done. He did however tell me that after the last show he went to all of you guys were less than kind to him and he felt he overstayed his welcome which is why he hasn't gone back to your shows. Me I stopped going because it isn't worth all the money I piss on your shows just to see either A:) Main eventers that don't show up and are replaced by local guys or B:) Maineventers that are past their prime and can't put on a decent match anymore. That's the crux of my arguement against ADC. As for you and I well we'll never like each other that's for sure and given you're penchant for bashing fans I don't think I want to like you!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2009 13:39:10 GMT -6
hey Raul Cruz I don't atattack you because with a;; ,y respect for me you do'nt exist but you friend mario mentions you name he says you told him about my person so I have to defend my self, let me tell you you can go anywhere you want to go it's you right but I remind you here at the congress you never pay a ticketbto see the shows, about charlie I never met him he is right to express his opinion if sometihing don't like him because he pay for the ticket eI remind you even you never pay for the ticket I always give you my respect especially when you want interviw the luchadores. about warrior who I don't know he attack myself first and I even don't know this person and Like I told you and the other web site I I'm catolic but I don't like put my other cheek You talk about always you supported ADC thankyou but I remind you this when you Dad needsof my support I gave it to him without waiting anything to change beacuse I'm like that I'm like those credit cards that no longer exist I don't have it limits for finish let mi tell you tell you friend mario yhat no involve you so your name doesn't come out and I repeat you can go where you want to go but excuse me for this words I don't like the spongers a;so excuse me for my poor Englis Mr Arenas you are full of it. You claim you don't attack me but as "Charlie" put it you did use some choice language on the other board. And for whoever this Mario is [who is apparantly not who I thought he was] if I have ever spoken to him it's been MANY MANY MONTHS. Whoever he is and whatever he is saying is beyond my knowledge. That's all I have to say to you on this or any other matter. Good luck on any future lucha cards you want to put on.
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Post by JTB on Apr 11, 2009 23:00:59 GMT -6
Me gusta la lucha libre.
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Post by shingon1 on Apr 12, 2009 16:25:20 GMT -6
oh my god charlie you speak like you are God but let mi tellyou I answer this time beacuse you defend raul like he's yo baby brothet I Beleive raul is an adult for defend he's self and is good you don't come no more to congress because fans like you they are not noticed their abscence i promised my self don't pay attencion about what you say, but this time I have to because you stick the nose in something don't belong, regardinf raulito for me you're so insignificant that now iItellyou with all my respect for the animals don t be burro and it's finishes from to day you people t says whatever you want
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