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Post by Bad Dad Liar on Sept 30, 2009 13:39:44 GMT -6
who trained you ?
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Post by "iCON of the Indys" Joey Roth on Sept 30, 2009 14:09:29 GMT -6
Chi Town T did the majority of my training. The likes of TL Money and Milo Cash and others also gave me pointers and advice along the way as well. Now what?
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Post by Bad Dad Liar on Oct 1, 2009 5:51:10 GMT -6
I didn't know IUWA had a training center....when did this happen ? Or do they now have a training center and your training took place in a yard ?
They did a great job teaching you weight training as well as how to conduct yourself, publicly.
Is it an amazing coincidence that nobody of any significance has ANY interest in booking your "trainers".
Out of curiousity, who was that genius in IUWA who decided to go thru a flaming table, wearing spandex ?
can't wait for these answers.
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Post by "iCON of the Indys" Joey Roth on Oct 1, 2009 14:36:37 GMT -6
What? Took you all day to think of all those questions? I like how you did that. I saw your post this morning and now all of a sudden you add quite a bit, about 7 hours later nonetheless. Talk about trolling. LOL
I'll would say I'd put what I do against whatever you do anytime. But there is NO WAY I'm going to do glory hole duty like you do. But let’s just face it. You don't do crap cept troll on message boards.
Do you even have talent to do anything ya ignorant prick? Nah, of course you don't. You’re the type of person who will always lose in life. You have that crappy job and are in debt. You have no hope for the future. You'll always be a drain on whoever you come in contact with. I hope you live a nice long life. It would serve you right. Be one of those 70 year old bitter bastards dreaming how you "could have" or "should have" been this or that. Blame other people for the crap going on in your life. This isn't a "on-line promo" It's just the truth dude.
This use to be fun. But you're just pathetic. I use to laugh at you. But now I'm just shaking my head at you. So go ahead. Come on back with something you sad sad little boy.
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Post by indyfan101 on Oct 1, 2009 15:04:33 GMT -6
so you didnt answer any of the questions.
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Post by Bad Dad Liar on Oct 1, 2009 15:42:43 GMT -6
I didn't know IUWA had a training center....when did this happen ? Or do they now have a training center and your training took place in a yard ? They did a great job teaching you weight training as well as how to conduct yourself, publicly. Is it an amazing coincidence that nobody of any significance has ANY interest in booking your "trainers". Out of curiousity, who was that genius in IUWA who decided to go thru a flaming table, wearing spandex ? can't wait for these answers.
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Post by "iCON of the Indys" Joey Roth on Oct 2, 2009 6:21:33 GMT -6
YAWN. You two still here?
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Post by Bad Dad Liar on Oct 2, 2009 9:23:31 GMT -6
I didn't know IUWA had a training center....when did this happen ? Or do they now have a training center and your training took place in a yard ? They did a great job teaching you weight training as well as how to conduct yourself, publicly. Is it an amazing coincidence that nobody of any significance has ANY interest in booking your "trainers". Out of curiousity, who was that genius in IUWA who decided to go thru a flaming table, wearing spandex ? can't wait for these answers.
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Post by "iCON of the Indys" Joey Roth on Oct 2, 2009 11:29:39 GMT -6
Hmmmm? Did you need something?
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Post by Blooregard Q. Kazoo on Oct 2, 2009 11:32:08 GMT -6
I didn't know IUWA had a training center....when did this happen ? Or do they now have a training center and your training took place in a yard ? They did a great job teaching you weight training as well as how to conduct yourself, publicly. Is it an amazing coincidence that nobody of any significance has ANY interest in booking your "trainers". Out of curiousity, who was that genius in IUWA who decided to go thru a flaming table, wearing spandex ? can't wait for these answers. THAT GENIUS WAS CHI-TOWN T ONE OF HIS TRAINERS AND BOOKER AND OWNER OF IUWA
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Post by johnson on Oct 2, 2009 11:57:20 GMT -6
I'm still waiting for Crimefighter to respond to this post. When have I ever pretended to be a random troll? The people that matter know who I am, and I've never hidden my identity. My email address has always been displayed in my name. But he's a D-Bag, so I assume he wont just admit when he's wrong.
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Post by johnson on Oct 2, 2009 12:07:02 GMT -6
And here is where I give you credit, very little credit, but credit nonetheless. At least you told me what credentials you have. Others around here just spout off crap and hide under their little fake names. However, it doesn't make me feel smaller. Why would it? Good for you for having a decent turn out. Was this recent? Or was it when there wasn't 30 different feds running all over the place? I love this business too. I've be a fan of it since 1984 and always wanted to get trained and perform in front of people. And I've done it. I've wrestled in front of my fair share of impressive crowds. It just happens that this last one wasn't a big draw. Not every show is a sell out. I've been to a few, as a fan, over this past year and none of them were close to being a sell out. And anyone out there saying that theirs were is lying to themselves. I can pick and choose who and where I work for as well. My reputation proceeds me. I've turned down bookings from Iowa to Ohio to Wisconsin and yes even Illinois. And yes. All recently too. Why? I'm an actor. It's just not a gimmick but the truth. I have a full book of acting jobs that take up quite a bit of my time. So I choose to stick with IUWA because they are a bunch of good people who want to put on a show for people and let those people in the crowd have a good time. They don't need to back stab or put down or belittle another fed to get themselves over. Why do I do it? Well I was first attacked. So I stand up for myself. My peers respect me as much as I respect them. I can honestly, truthfully, say that. Am I a mark for myself? Maybe a little. But shouldn't you be? Do I think I'm the end all and be all of pro wrestling? Of course not. But others around here actually think they are. So who really is the idiot trying to "work the boards"? I am simply answering all these little attacks on me. Again. I didn't start it. I don't know where you get that I only deal with "yard tards". It's unfortunate that, yes, some are, but not only in IUWA, but all the rest of the feds running around here too. Are you going to honestly tell me that no other fed has a piece of trash yarder on their roster? I for one. Never wrestled in a backyard. I never flipped around on any mattress nor have I ever did a back flip off a garage onto anybody. And on these shows. I don't work them. I refuse to. I've seen to many people get kicked in the face and that won't happen to me. If I don't trust the person I'm working, I don't work them. You talk about the people who come to these shows. And no, this last show consisted of regular people who saw the fliers and came to the show. Those are the people we are more concerned with. Not any of you. Everyone that was there at the end said they can't wait for the next show and that they had a great time. That right there is what you shoot for and there we scored. So yeah. Only 50 people. But be damn sure those 50 people had a great time and went home happy. They were fans of pro. wrestling. Not message board marks or workers who are bitter and rip apart everything cause it makes them feel better. As for the fat lines and whatnot? Eh what can I say. I like the classics. come on, more so than not it's the damn truth. But yeah it's a lame insult. It goes with the lame people it's directed at. And another good for you for having a pretty damn good life. If it's true. As for me? I have a great life. Great friends, great girls, a good job that allows me to do whatever I want, an acting career that is taking me places. My bills are paid and I have it made in the shade. It's pretty near perfect. If I could snap my fingers and wish for everyone else to have it as good as me. I would do it in a heartbeat. Really I would. Cause I'm a nice guy like that. Even to those who shoot their tiny little arrows my way. But if people still want to come in here and berate me? I'm just going to give it right back at you. A lot of you need to get slapped back into reality. The shows that I was involved in, in Streamwood were sometime around 2004-05, I honestly dont quite remember. I do remember that on any given weekend you could go to 6-10 indy shows within an hours drive of Chicago. So yeah, it's pretty much the same now as it was back then. No, you shouldn't be a mark for yourself. There are waaaay to many guys involved with wrestling that are marks for themselves. I prefer to work with people, that are marks for getting matches over with their respective crowds, not guys just trying to get themselves over. It's not good business to be a mark for yourself, and isnt wrestling a business afterall? Don't throw the rest of the feds in the same boat as IUWA when it comes to using yarders. I refuse to work for a company that uses yarders on their shows, and if you were truly professionally trained, you would to. Their is too much that can go wrong, to use untrained people on shows.
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Post by Bad Dad Liar on Oct 2, 2009 12:23:54 GMT -6
Too embarrassed to answer these questions ? IUWA DOES NOT have a training school, do they ? Being in the scene for a long time, you tend to pick up on who owns a ring and who does not. Chi-town T, your trainer DOES NOT own a ring, does he ? SO WHERE WERE YOU TRAINED ? None of your "Trainers" have worked for ROH, AAW, Elite, IWA or any other respected fed, have they ? (I believe Chi-twon started in WCPW, but has he wrestled anywhere that he didn't have to pay to train or run ?? NO. The genius who went thru a flaming table WEARING SPANDEX, was your SO- CALLED trainer!!!! BWHAHAHAHAHA. WOW, we all see how WELL you were taught by such RESPECTED "trainers".
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Post by Bad Dad Liar on Oct 2, 2009 12:26:56 GMT -6
ps
Not ONE person has come to your defense. Not a fan, not a co-worker, not a promoter. Meanwhile MORE people join in the fun of LAUGHING at you~!!
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Post by "iCON of the Indys" Joey Roth on Oct 2, 2009 12:30:06 GMT -6
And here is where I give you credit, very little credit, but credit nonetheless. At least you told me what credentials you have. Others around here just spout off crap and hide under their little fake names. However, it doesn't make me feel smaller. Why would it? Good for you for having a decent turn out. Was this recent? Or was it when there wasn't 30 different feds running all over the place? I love this business too. I've be a fan of it since 1984 and always wanted to get trained and perform in front of people. And I've done it. I've wrestled in front of my fair share of impressive crowds. It just happens that this last one wasn't a big draw. Not every show is a sell out. I've been to a few, as a fan, over this past year and none of them were close to being a sell out. And anyone out there saying that theirs were is lying to themselves. I can pick and choose who and where I work for as well. My reputation proceeds me. I've turned down bookings from Iowa to Ohio to Wisconsin and yes even Illinois. And yes. All recently too. Why? I'm an actor. It's just not a gimmick but the truth. I have a full book of acting jobs that take up quite a bit of my time. So I choose to stick with IUWA because they are a bunch of good people who want to put on a show for people and let those people in the crowd have a good time. They don't need to back stab or put down or belittle another fed to get themselves over. Why do I do it? Well I was first attacked. So I stand up for myself. My peers respect me as much as I respect them. I can honestly, truthfully, say that. Am I a mark for myself? Maybe a little. But shouldn't you be? Do I think I'm the end all and be all of pro wrestling? Of course not. But others around here actually think they are. So who really is the idiot trying to "work the boards"? I am simply answering all these little attacks on me. Again. I didn't start it. I don't know where you get that I only deal with "yard tards". It's unfortunate that, yes, some are, but not only in IUWA, but all the rest of the feds running around here too. Are you going to honestly tell me that no other fed has a piece of trash yarder on their roster? I for one. Never wrestled in a backyard. I never flipped around on any mattress nor have I ever did a back flip off a garage onto anybody. And on these shows. I don't work them. I refuse to. I've seen to many people get kicked in the face and that won't happen to me. If I don't trust the person I'm working, I don't work them. You talk about the people who come to these shows. And no, this last show consisted of regular people who saw the fliers and came to the show. Those are the people we are more concerned with. Not any of you. Everyone that was there at the end said they can't wait for the next show and that they had a great time. That right there is what you shoot for and there we scored. So yeah. Only 50 people. But be damn sure those 50 people had a great time and went home happy. They were fans of pro. wrestling. Not message board marks or workers who are bitter and rip apart everything cause it makes them feel better. As for the fat lines and whatnot? Eh what can I say. I like the classics. come on, more so than not it's the damn truth. But yeah it's a lame insult. It goes with the lame people it's directed at. And another good for you for having a pretty damn good life. If it's true. As for me? I have a great life. Great friends, great girls, a good job that allows me to do whatever I want, an acting career that is taking me places. My bills are paid and I have it made in the shade. It's pretty near perfect. If I could snap my fingers and wish for everyone else to have it as good as me. I would do it in a heartbeat. Really I would. Cause I'm a nice guy like that. Even to those who shoot their tiny little arrows my way. But if people still want to come in here and berate me? I'm just going to give it right back at you. A lot of you need to get slapped back into reality. The shows that I was involved in, in Streamwood were sometime around 2004-05, I honestly dont quite remember. I do remember that on any given weekend you could go to 6-10 indy shows within an hours drive of Chicago. So yeah, it's pretty much the same now as it was back then. No, you shouldn't be a mark for yourself. There are waaaay to many guys involved with wrestling that are marks for themselves. I prefer to work with people, that are marks for getting matches over with their respective crowds, not guys just trying to get themselves over. It's not good business to be a mark for yourself, and isn't wrestling a business afterall? Don't throw the rest of the feds in the same boat as IUWA when it comes to using yarders. I refuse to work for a company that uses yarders on their shows, and if you were truly professionally trained, you would to. Their is too much that can go wrong, to use untrained people on shows. I think we differ on thinking on being a "mark" for oneself means. I don't go around and say that I am better than anyone else. I don't think that at all. I'm a fan of myself cause I like the gimmick I have and whatnot. It's not like I sit there and tell the people I work with that without me the show is nothing. I don't only try to get myself over. I want the other person to get over just as much. I want the match to get over. What's the point of me just looking good? I understand that everything needs to get over. I'm just saying that a worker should be a fan of himself or herself. It's not like I kick the locker room door down and tell everyone to kiss my boots. No way would I ever do that. I will indeed throw the rest of the feds around here in the same boat when it comes to yarders. I've been to plenty of them this year that had them. If you refuse to work any shows that have them then you must not work that much. When I work. I won't work them at all. You are totally right with the statement that too much can go wrong. That's why they can wrestle one another. But those kids are getting trained. I still won't work them cause they are still green. But again, they still are getting trained. Everybody has to start somewhere don't they? Don't forget. EVERYONE who steps in a wrestling ring anywhere had to start somewhere. Nobody knew what the heck they were doing before they got into the ring. Again. I'm going to give you more credit for coming in here and not acting like a j@ck@ss unlike a couple of other people. Ya see people? Be civil like this guy and things would go so much easier!
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