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Post by bigdaddywppf on Jun 10, 2010 23:04:53 GMT -6
OK well the photoguy and biasopinion i have no idea who that is they don't work for me but i see Wazoo is just like everybody else they hide behind a screen and won't give there real name but such is life cause there are names for people like that and u know what it is........ OK people for the last time they excused me of offering IBUPROFEN WHICH HAS A DRUG IN IT HELL MINORS CANT EVEN BUY IBUPROFEN OVER THE COUNTER AND TRYING TO DRUG HER MY FATHER WAS IN THE HOSPITAL THE DR GAVE HIM 2-3 DAYS TO LIVE I DIDN'T WANT ALL THIS GOING ON WITH HIM GONNA DIE AS THEY SAID SO WE PLEA BARGAINED IT'S A MISDEMEANOR I GOT 1 YEAR PROBATION AND A $500 FINE I MEAN HOW MUCH FREAKING PLANNER CAN I MAKE IT AND I'M SORRY IF THE PA THOUGHT IT WAS A MORE SERIOUS CRIME HE WOULD OF NEVER PLEA BARGAINED NOW WOULD HE OF DO I NEED TO GET OUT THE CRAYONS AND PAPER OK DO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND I DOUBT IT BUT THERE ARE THAT MANY STUPID PEOPLE OUT THERE JESUS CHRIST PEOPLE DOES IT MATTER WHAT THE GREAT MIGHTY CRIMEFIGHTER THINKS OF ME NOT REALLY DOES IT MATTER WHAT WAZOO THINKS OF ME NOPE NOT REALLY SEE PEOPLE YOU DON'T KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MY PERSONAL LIFE OK AND NEVER WILL LIKE JASON THOMAS SAID THE SHOWS WILL GO ON NO MATTER WHAT CRIME FIGHTER SAYS NO MATER WHAT WAZOO SAYS OK AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED ITS OVER AND DONE WITH I KNOW WHO POSTED AND ACTION WILL BE TAKEN PLAIN AND SIMPLE DAMN WAZOO N CRIMEFIGHTER GET A LIFE AND STOP BE INTERNET f*cks AND THIS IS THE LAST TIME I'M EXPLAINING ANYTHING TO YARDTARDS LIKE CRIMEY N WAZOO AND FOR THE RECORD DOES IT REALLY MATTER IF U OR YOUR KIDS COME NOT REALLY YOUR A MORON OK PLAIN AND SIMPLE ......YOU KNOW THERE IS PROBABLY WRESTLERS AND PROMOTERS OUT THERE IN THIS WORLD WHO HAVE DONE MUCH WORSE BUT HAVE NOT GOT THIS MUCH PUBLICITY sh*t JAKE ROBERTS HAS ACTUALLY SLEPT WITH MINORS BUT PROMOTERS STILL BOOK HIM I MEAN COME ON WTF
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Post by Chicago Sucks! on Jun 11, 2010 9:37:37 GMT -6
*slapface* How the heck does giving aspirin to a child get you charged with committing a child sex/exploitation act? Was the arresting officer a complete idiot or the prosectutor a complete bonehead that he couldn't tell the difference between the two? Seriously.
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Post by Matt Cage on Jun 11, 2010 11:21:52 GMT -6
Crimey, stop egging this on. Someone should just lock this.
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Post by Chicago Sucks! on Jun 11, 2010 11:54:58 GMT -6
My problem with the explanation - a person doesn't get charged with a child sex crime for giving aspirin for a headache. The logic doesn't flow, unless the victim filed a false police report to which that person should had been charged with lying to police...but because the defendant went and pled guilty due their perception that the inconvinence level of clearing your name was far outweighed by the punishment - it's too late to go after the liar. Something serious happened here and I'm skeptical of the explanation being completely truthful.
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Post by chicagoprowrestling on Jun 11, 2010 14:43:02 GMT -6
While everything is now out in the open it doesn't give you guys free reign to turn this place into a circus.
Big Daddy, it's a touchy subject and I empathize with you but cool out with the swearing. This thread is in a section of the board which is accesible to everyone, not just forum members. You're taking away from the focus that should be about the show coming up ( plus you look bad blowing up in a public space).
MCC, maybe it's the journalist in you, but quit goading the guy or at the very least continue your quest for the truth somewhere other than this board.
My apologies to all for letting this go on as long as it has. If it continues I'm locking the thread.
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Post by johnson on Jun 14, 2010 17:57:03 GMT -6
The very first thing I learned when I broke into this business was that PERSONAL LIFE HAS NO BUSINESS IN WRESTLING. I will not comment on the rest of the subject matter, as I really just don't want to get involved. However, I am very curious who broke you into wrestling, and made this the very first thing you learned?
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Post by fatherofaraging1 on Jun 15, 2010 21:12:41 GMT -6
I started in this business at the age of 11 doing set up and tear down with Revolution Championship Wrestling. I started training at the age of 12 with Syn of the Wicked Wrestling Alliance... one of the first things he ever told me when I began my training was personal life and wrestling can never mix..... he used to say what happens outside of the ring stays outside of the ring. The point I was trying to make was that people always want to try to drag someones personal life where it has no business in being and that's out in the open. What happens in someones life outside of wrestling is there personal life.
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Post by wazoo on Jun 16, 2010 15:24:43 GMT -6
Sweet Jesus.... Its sh*t like this that IMO ruins the business as a whole all because someone gets their panties tied the wrong way for one reason or another and brings someones personal life where it has no business being brought up. The very first thing I learned when I broke into this business was that PERSONAL LIFE HAS NO BUSINESS IN WRESTLING. The two can never mix, but you have arrogant assholes out there like joecj that don't know a damn thing about the business and want to ruin it for everyone. Ive been working for WPPF for the past year and half now and have enjoyed my time with the company and have never had any problems with them. This past Saturday I was appointed the new commissioner of Wrestling Past Present Future with that being said I invite ANYONE & EVERYONE to join us for one of our upcoming shows, as I feel you won't be disappointed & I can guarantee you there will be no nonsense taken from anyone. So for those of you who have any questions about any of this feel free to contact me, id be more then happy to answer any questions you may have. Thank you everyone whose supported WPPF thus far and we look forward to seeing you on June 18th at Slaughter At Sturgis. With this mentality and a commissioner like this is reason #2139 why I would never attend a WPPF card.
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Post by wazoo on Jun 16, 2010 15:27:23 GMT -6
I started in this business at the age of 11 doing set up and tear down with Revolution Championship Wrestling. I started training at the age of 12 with Syn of the Wicked Wrestling Alliance... one of the first things he ever told me when I began my training was personal life and wrestling can never mix..... he used to say what happens outside of the ring stays outside of the ring. The point I was trying to make was that people always want to try to drag someones personal life where it has no business in being and that's out in the open. What happens in someones life outside of wrestling is there personal life. So...in one post you say the first thing you learned was in your second wrestling company you were affiliated with?? So you learned absolutely nothing with the other company before you were affiliated with Wicked wrestling?? Shrugs head and walks away..far away from being anywhere near a WPPF event.
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Post by fatherofaraging1 on Jun 16, 2010 17:09:19 GMT -6
That's not what I meant at all... I meant I learned more when I started training then what I learned on ring crew. And as far as not wanting to attend our shows that's your choice. No one is twisting your arm.
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Post by rockofhysteria on Jun 17, 2010 2:00:42 GMT -6
MCC i got a relative who is a cop and he told me that yes offering certain medications like ibuprofen to minors is illegal and wazoo if u don't like wppf then why talk about them ive been to 3 wppf shows and enjoyed them all (although the last one i was 1 of only 4 paying customers) but the show was still good. if i could get to the cities on june 18th id go to this show
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Post by Ryne Kensei on Jun 17, 2010 12:31:00 GMT -6
I like wrestling.
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Post by biasopinion on Jun 17, 2010 12:37:12 GMT -6
OK let me confirm something i do not work for Big Daddy and WPPF I am a Wrestling fan who lives in the area i attend many wppf shows as well as AAW,ASW and MCW. I have 3 relatives who work in the Police Dept one is chief of Police and one is a Lieutenant and the other is a Chief of Detectives and all 3 work for different police forces and all 3 have 15+yrs in law enforcement and i talked to them all 3 separate . rockofhystria is correct it is against the law to offer a minor under the age of 18 ibuprofen ,it's a Class A Misdemeanor which carries a $500 dollar fine and 1 year probation. What is all this hate towards Big Daddy do i sense alot of jealous people out there and i didn't know people could carry that much hate wow.
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Post by Ryne Kensei on Jun 17, 2010 15:45:41 GMT -6
So how bout this show, huh? Looks like a good'n, doesn't it? Ryne Kensei vs. Markus Crane oughta be really good... Remember their first match in Walcott?
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Post by joecj on Jun 17, 2010 15:59:42 GMT -6
This is the statute that Big Daddy was charged under. It does not cover giving aspirin or anything like it to a minor. That would be contributing to the delinquency of a minor. this is specifically a sex act.
(720 ILCS 5/11‑9.1) (from Ch. 38, par. 11‑9.1) Sec. 11‑9.1. Sexual exploitation of a child. (a) Any person commits sexual exploitation of a child if in the presence of a child and with intent or knowledge that a child would view his or her acts, that person: (1) engages in a sexual act; or (2) exposes his or her sex organs, anus or breast for the purpose of sexual arousal or gratification of such person or the child. (a‑5) A person commits sexual exploitation of a child who knowingly entices, coerces, or persuades a child to remove the child's clothing for the purpose of sexual arousal or gratification of the person or the child, or both. (b) Definitions. As used in this Section: "Sexual act" means masturbation, sexual conduct or sexual penetration as defined in Section 12‑12 of this Code. "Sex offense" means any violation of Article 11 of this Code or a violation of Section 12‑13, 12‑14, 12‑14.1, 12‑15, 12‑16, or 12‑16.2 of this Code. "Child" means a person under 17 years of age. (c) Sentence. (1) Sexual exploitation of a child is a Class A misdemeanor. A second or subsequent violation of this Section or a substantially similar law of another state is a Class 4 felony. (2) Sexual exploitation of a child is a Class 4 felony if the person has been previously convicted of a sex offense. (3) Sexual exploitation of a child is a Class 4 felony if the victim was under 13 years of age at the time of the commission of the offense. (Source: P.A. 94‑140, eff. 7‑7‑05.)
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