11/20 - Addison, IL - IWA Mid-South

Let me get on here and try to defend myself. People think when I would say I was close to going out of business, it was a scam. Folks, I have robbed Peter to pay Paul since about 2001. I run IWA on my own money and DVD sales with Jims help ever now and then. When I said we were in need of money to stay alive, we were in need, believe it or not. I was not getting rich then on to present time. I messed up big time and I'm man enough to admit it. But when I had to get my 3 year olds broken elbow fixed and I dipped into money I should have had to take care of these bills. I figured I'd be able to put it back, but it just did not go that way. Then I was in a huge hole. Now running shows to get of this was pretty much my only way out. That way people who are owed money can come to the shows on what they are owed and if they want merch they can get that too. The boys are working for me at cut rate prices to help me out. Not to be a smart ass or anything, but I have helped out alot of them too. I hope this along with the fact that I just got a daytime job helps. I hope you understand I have done some stuff I'm not proud of, but I have done a lot more that I am proud of. I hope you'll give me a chance once again to entertain you. Thanks Ian

So, the way I understand it is that Ian "dipped" into the money that fans paid to see a show in order to pay medical bills. Not to sound harsh, but that was wrong, if not illegal. When I was in high school, a teacher was in charge of taking the money from the Seniors for the Senior trip. He "dipped" into the money to buy a sure thing in the stock market. He thought that when the stock skyrocketed, he would simply sell the stock, put the "dipped" money back and make a profit. The stock was a bust and he did not have the money to put back. His career was destroyed. true story.... 2 questions. 1. What is the difference between what Ian did and what the teacher did? They both took money that was not theirs to take. 2. Should the teacher have been allowed to organize a second trip in order to take care of the people he screwed out of the first trip?

You make my point. There is a word for what Ian did and the word is STEALING. Joe Average Fan did not put down the money for Ian to pay medical bills....he put down the money for a ticket to see a wrestling show. PERIOD How anybody can condone "dipping" is beyond me. To say there is a difference in using money to buy stock and paying medical bills is just preposterous. What do you say to the fans that he stole money from? He needed it to pay bills? That makes it OK?

Let's use another example.... I own my catering business and somebody comes in and gives me $2,000 to cater an event. My son breaks his elbow and instead of using the $2,000 to buy the food for the event, I use it to pay medical bills. I then tell this person that I can no longer do the event because my son needed medical assistance and that is what I used the money for.
Do you think that she is going to accept that? Hey, the business is mine and the Social Security number is the same on the business, therefore, I can do what I want with the money and fuk the people that gave me the money. I will tell the woman that I will cater another event and she can show up there with her guests and we will call it even. This is the exact scenario that Ian had. yet, people are defending his actions. I am stunned.

Let him continue to put on shows, but buy the ticket at the door so that he will not play foot loose and fancy free with the money? Double stunned. This whole b*llsh*t line about how IWA has put on great shows in the past....does that give him a license to steal? Obviously, many think so.....triple stunned

I never said Ian made a good decision, but I can understand why he made it.

Using your new example if your son fell and broke his elbow and you had no insurance, no cash reserves and no other means to pay for the surgery to properly fix the elbow that you would choose using the money for you business over taking care of your family and dealing with the repurcussions later. That to me is stunning.

Ian/IWA did not accept the money for tickets knowing they were not going to run the show. That would be Fraudlant and a different situation. Events occured to prevent them from running the show. Ian is now trying to resolve the situation and payback the money owed.

Based on your defination of Stealing any person who is late on their mortgage payment, walks away from their home because they cannot make the payment and is worth less than it is currently worth, defaults on a credit card, negotiates for less than a full balance on a credit card or loan or files Bankruptcy(I could keep going but will stop) is stealing as they received Money, Merchandise or services that they are now not able to pay for.

I work in the Credit Department of a bank and spend my entire day reviewing facts and assessing Risk. In going to the show tonight my only risk is the cost of the gas it takes me to get to the show and it not taking place. The benefits of going to the show are that I most likely get to see a good show and Ian may be able to pay back some of the people he owes money to. Each person is entitled to review the facts and make a decision if they want to patronize any given company or promotion. Since I do not believe Ian's actions were fraud In my opinion going to the show is not giving him a license to steal, but giving him a chance to make amends.

I'm going to the show tonight so that Ian will be able to pay some people back. I do it because I care....for all of you. Just remember to vote for me for Governor in November.

Pete gets mad over stealing, but forgives a guy for raping a 13-year old girl.

Sheesh!

Not like Pete is going to an IWA show anyway. So who cares what he thinks.

So, you condone stealing? Nice. very original material, again. I love white trash. No originality. Same sh*t over and over again because the Inbreeding caused them to be idiots. Listen not a very nice person. Go buy stock in IWA. I do not go to IWA shows. I do not condone "dipping" You would go because you are a fool.